Jobban Appeal: Zking47
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Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Byond key:Zking47
Job Ban? (Y/N):Y
Jobban - which job?:Chief Medical Officer (CMO)
Reason for ban: "Git Gud"
Your appeal (explain why we should unban you): On multiple occasions having proved myself an important asset and a team-player, I feel that it is an idle resource to not allow me to preform the tasks of a Chief Medical Officer.
However, in an act of grace, I will yield that Natalie (the character I play) has become a tad... Mary Sue, or so everyone says. In an effort to lessen this, I will redact her canon, and remove her knowledge of engines, as it has received multiple complaints. This was originally done in order to reflect my own learning experiences with the character, but apparently this has been considered unfair.
I also would like to apologize or any offense I caused toward the admins and staff, and I redact my previous statements that could be considered inflammatory or instigation, as they were inappropriate and uncalled for.
C.D. username_Zking47
Job Ban? (Y/N):Y
Jobban - which job?:Chief Medical Officer (CMO)
Reason for ban: "Git Gud"
Your appeal (explain why we should unban you): On multiple occasions having proved myself an important asset and a team-player, I feel that it is an idle resource to not allow me to preform the tasks of a Chief Medical Officer.
However, in an act of grace, I will yield that Natalie (the character I play) has become a tad... Mary Sue, or so everyone says. In an effort to lessen this, I will redact her canon, and remove her knowledge of engines, as it has received multiple complaints. This was originally done in order to reflect my own learning experiences with the character, but apparently this has been considered unfair.
I also would like to apologize or any offense I caused toward the admins and staff, and I redact my previous statements that could be considered inflammatory or instigation, as they were inappropriate and uncalled for.
C.D. username_Zking47
Last edited by BlackAce on Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:48 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Changed title)
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
Join date : 2016-03-15
Age : 26
Location : Swamp-Lands, FL
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Considering Natalie, you were provoking me for around 20 minutes instead of shutting up, instead spouting off, bragging, and then immediately after the job ban you insincerely said 'i'm sorry, lift the ban' and you already have a note of not being able to keep OOC and IC different, and I personally had to PERMA you in the past, you can wait 2-3 days at a MINIMUM, to think on what you did, it seems very untrue that you'd suddenly be sorry THIS fast, you posted this within at least 30 minutes of the ban, it means you didn't think on jack shit, and that this wasn't even well thought up, it's basically you taking what an admin says, and cramming it down your throat without adjusting, or thinking about it, it means your not sorry, your just doing it because you feel that you HAVE TO
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BeyondMyLife- Posts : 30
Join date : 2016-02-11
Location : Baden-Baden Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
I'd like to point out the previous ban was for "metagaming" and if I'm not mistaken, this is a crime YOU are guilty of, and have been called out for by staff. As an admin that's an even bigger no-no than had i done it.
Additionally, aforementioned ban was on a DIFFERENT server, er go, holds no validity here as either evidence, nor as an argument.
Lastly, the "20 minutes" spent "egging you on", was 15 (i checked), and not only was i NOT initially egging you on, but I was ACTUALLY giving a GENUINE retort to AdminPM's YOU were sending TO ME in the middle of an operation, which were the root cause of the delay.
You had given a warning for jobban already on the same instance. By jobbanning me, you preformed double-jeopardy, which for those well versed in their knowledge of the U.S. constitution and common law in 15 countries, is an inhuman offense of charging an individual TWICE for the same crime.
You had a right in calling me out for using soporific the first time, but when you went further to jobban for the same offense? No, at that point you were in the wrong. Only furthering it I might add, by allowing emotions to be the root of the issue. If you are going to let your whim decide your professional acts as an admin or a game moderator, I don't see how anyone can trust you to make valid, well thought out decisions as a logical fallacy of Ad Hominem (attacking someone at a legal or professional level based on emotional predisposition or displeasing views).
You literally, scientifically, and legally are illogical.
Additionally, aforementioned ban was on a DIFFERENT server, er go, holds no validity here as either evidence, nor as an argument.
Lastly, the "20 minutes" spent "egging you on", was 15 (i checked), and not only was i NOT initially egging you on, but I was ACTUALLY giving a GENUINE retort to AdminPM's YOU were sending TO ME in the middle of an operation, which were the root cause of the delay.
You had given a warning for jobban already on the same instance. By jobbanning me, you preformed double-jeopardy, which for those well versed in their knowledge of the U.S. constitution and common law in 15 countries, is an inhuman offense of charging an individual TWICE for the same crime.
You had a right in calling me out for using soporific the first time, but when you went further to jobban for the same offense? No, at that point you were in the wrong. Only furthering it I might add, by allowing emotions to be the root of the issue. If you are going to let your whim decide your professional acts as an admin or a game moderator, I don't see how anyone can trust you to make valid, well thought out decisions as a logical fallacy of Ad Hominem (attacking someone at a legal or professional level based on emotional predisposition or displeasing views).
You literally, scientifically, and legally are illogical.
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
Join date : 2016-03-15
Age : 26
Location : Swamp-Lands, FL
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Given that you are being disrespectful to Beyond EVEN NOW, on top of you often having VERY public rage fits, having been perma'd before, and finally making a jobban appeal THIS SOON, I'll need to say NO, you will remain jobbanned from CMO, what should havea taken you Eight minutes MAX took at least fifteen, as 4 surgeries were already performed on two people in the other room, yes, we did in fact adminPM you, but you very easily could have continued the surgery while responding to our PMs.I do suggest however that you actually WAITAnd try again later so we actually believe you thought about it.
Capt Matt4- Posts : 25
Join date : 2016-01-31
Age : 33
Location : Land of Lutafisk
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
I had a chat with Zking, other admuns are against it but I'm willing to put it back. But we do agree to remove the ban it would be with restrictions.. Alternatively, you can wait a day or two, play regular medical roles and prove your worth trough that path instead.
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Thank you Black, i appreciate your cooperation.
If you'd be so kind, what kinds of "restrictions" are we talking about here?
I'd like to fully consider my options before I decided
If you'd be so kind, what kinds of "restrictions" are we talking about here?
I'd like to fully consider my options before I decided
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
Join date : 2016-03-15
Age : 26
Location : Swamp-Lands, FL
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
By Restrictions, I mostly mean that you'd get an eye kept on you. CMO is not just about being good at Medical, you need to be a good crewmember. It's also about setting an example to other medical personnel. Try to follow the job guides professionally, etc..
For 'restrictions' I guess I didn't mean it like that. But more that slip-ups could bring another jobban
For 'restrictions' I guess I didn't mean it like that. But more that slip-ups could bring another jobban
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Oh, so like a probationary period. Yeah I could handle that. Just play by the rules and cook by the book. Admittedly I've been sloppy in my practice in the past, but if the rite of necessity has been called to the field, who am I to object? I accept.
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
Join date : 2016-03-15
Age : 26
Location : Swamp-Lands, FL
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
And as for Captain Matt, I submit to the act of being a bit unruly at times if not outright hard to deal with. However, if you would like to SEE an example of unruly behavior, I call to the public, the following example.
>pic related
I do not deny in the least that my poor behaviors in the past can neither be condoned nor ignored, but I similarly feel that they then deserve APPROPRIATE handling, to scale with their impact and severity, not on personal preference or of social deference.
This being mentioned i feel the same standards should be applied to ALL issues of informality, unprofessional behavior, and outright abuse of a position of power. It is the right of no man who is fit for a position of power to use such power to bend the rules to their whim, and so any unworthy should be swiftly and appropriately dealt with.
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
Join date : 2016-03-15
Age : 26
Location : Swamp-Lands, FL
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
The picture supplied is from a permanent ban that HoboJesus received just a month before myself on the old station, for which no investigation, warnings, or mediation was held. Byond took it upon herself to be judge, juror, and executioner, and to misuse her privileges as an admin to do away with an individual she didn't care for, and then used my connection to this person to yet again abuse them, by banning me for "metagaming" (which in actuality was a Skype call that had been unrelated to the game, and was initiated AFTER the event in question).
Following these baseless accusations, Byond banned me permanently, including vulgarity, rude comments, and outright unprofessional vocabulary in doing so.
Following these baseless accusations, Byond banned me permanently, including vulgarity, rude comments, and outright unprofessional vocabulary in doing so.
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
Join date : 2016-03-15
Age : 26
Location : Swamp-Lands, FL
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Just saying, I want to have a chat with both you and Beyond sometime. I already posted on the player complaint you posted, so if you want to see my input, go there.
Unleashed Mana- Posts : 33
Join date : 2016-01-30
Location : The Mana Realm
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
I read it, and... you're right.
i have to prove myself
which... last round, i think i did
check logs. i Medic'd hard
i have to prove myself
which... last round, i think i did
check logs. i Medic'd hard
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
Join date : 2016-03-15
Age : 26
Location : Swamp-Lands, FL
Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Its going to take more than one round to prove yourself. It's not a simple "I did this, so I can do this now" sort of thing. You also need to learn the other areas of medical and prove that you are efficient in them, such as virology, genetics, etc. A Head of Staff position requires mastery in the other areas of the department they run. For example, I play as HoS due to the fact that I have had a lot of experience in all of the security positions. However, I don't play as RD because the only science area I'm good at is Robotics. Show us what you can do in the other areas and my position on the matter may change.
Unleashed Mana- Posts : 33
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Re: Jobban Appeal: Zking47
Understood
Zakumei47- Posts : 42
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